WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.000 --> 00:00:06.959 Joshua A Widdicombe: the week of the 13th might not work… might not work well for Devin, because of some prior obligations. Oh, okay. 2 00:00:07.180 --> 00:00:21.860 Joshua A Widdicombe: we'll see if there's something closer to the 20th, or, you know, but that's close to reading period, so we can, like, figure out what the balance is and what, you know, where we all can be there. I think, yeah, if Stephen's available, like, that'd be awesome too, and we could all… 3 00:00:22.120 --> 00:00:26.280 Joshua A Widdicombe: do this together, but… I guess, Jace, to start. 4 00:00:26.440 --> 00:00:46.010 Joshua A Widdicombe: some initial thoughts on it, and maybe, maybe Greg, if you wanna… I don't know if you wanna take lead on this, too, and, like, what you think we should be doing, but I was gonna basically focus on doing a, like, a touchOSC to Mad Mapper interface, and, and Notch, maybe, as well. But just basically, it's a… it's like… 5 00:00:46.140 --> 00:00:57.520 Joshua A Widdicombe: you can program, like, an iPad, with different, like, buttons and, and, you know, sliders, and I was gonna focus on, some data set, like the, 6 00:00:57.820 --> 00:00:59.960 Joshua A Widdicombe: I was gonna do the, 7 00:01:01.470 --> 00:01:16.649 Joshua A Widdicombe: the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter, datasets, which is just, like, lunar surface scans, and then, different… you can change opacity, you can rotate the globe, you can, you know, do different kinds of, shifts through the touch interface on the iPad. 8 00:01:16.650 --> 00:01:22.240 Joshua A Widdicombe: And I think that's kind of what I was gonna start focusing on, and then I think, we can talk about, like. 9 00:01:22.310 --> 00:01:25.609 Joshua A Widdicombe: What other… what else we might want to cover, talk about? 10 00:01:26.270 --> 00:01:29.680 Joshua A Widdicombe: In general. I mean, we just do a general overview of the sphere anyway, too, so… 11 00:01:29.680 --> 00:01:30.260 Stephen Guerin: Yep. 12 00:01:30.740 --> 00:01:37.320 Stephen Guerin: Yeah, and I got, two things. One is kind of, you know, the question with, 13 00:01:37.660 --> 00:01:43.860 Stephen Guerin: going to Echo, Rectangular, or other formats, so that'd be very… so, definitely messed with, 14 00:01:44.110 --> 00:01:53.520 Stephen Guerin: WebGPU and WebGL for warping, from one projection, geographic warping system to another, and Echo Rectangle will be this 15 00:01:53.670 --> 00:01:57.230 Stephen Guerin: standard that we need to get on the sphere. 16 00:01:58.140 --> 00:02:01.180 Stephen Guerin: But yeah, so I'd be interested in that part. And then there's, I think. 17 00:02:01.350 --> 00:02:13.979 Stephen Guerin: content, playlist management by the end user, potentially, with a… with an iPad interface. If you think that's in scope, I want to bring up my work. 18 00:02:14.200 --> 00:02:22.389 Stephen Guerin: or I want to go… or whatever it's playing, if I can… you know, the most minimal thing is spin… spin it, right? Or, 19 00:02:22.640 --> 00:02:40.109 Stephen Guerin: Because then you're just changing the echo rectangular. So, you know, different ways of, queuing up or making a playlist, and it would be temporary, you know, obviously it would time out. There's a little bit of permission, authentication, maybe if they need to have a Harvard email address, or… 20 00:02:40.110 --> 00:02:43.140 Stephen Guerin: You know, or it's always going through, 21 00:02:43.550 --> 00:02:52.279 Stephen Guerin: you know, some kind of curation, which we'll want to do anyway. So what does that submission look like? And whether it's a URL, 22 00:02:52.480 --> 00:03:09.460 Stephen Guerin: The URL can be a web interactive, but it could also just be where, you know, an MP4 is, and if it's in a non-equirectangular format, then some kind of workflow on our devices to warp it. Most of that could be happening in browser. 23 00:03:09.460 --> 00:03:12.750 Stephen Guerin: Or in Mad Mapper, if we get the mappings. 24 00:03:12.750 --> 00:03:25.139 Stephen Guerin: So that would be… and I guess there's a third thing, Martin Wattenberg, if you guys know of him, I'll just put it in the chat. He's now at Harvard, interestingly, so in some ways, opening it up to some of the 25 00:03:25.370 --> 00:03:32.270 Stephen Guerin: world-class visualization researchers at Harvard, right? He's over in computer science, so I just put, you know, his work 26 00:03:32.360 --> 00:03:50.689 Stephen Guerin: in the chat, and I have… I just barely reached out to him like I saw just on LinkedIn, and his partner. But, you know, there's maybe this campus-wide, who might be some of the people that would really like to help display work? 27 00:03:50.730 --> 00:03:57.589 Stephen Guerin: and communicate science in different ways, right? I think that's where it can get really nice, of… it becomes a communication… 28 00:03:57.910 --> 00:04:00.150 Stephen Guerin: Across different disciplines, yeah? 29 00:04:02.930 --> 00:04:12.570 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah, that, that, I mean, all of what you both are saying, wonderful. I'm on board with all of that. 30 00:04:13.130 --> 00:04:18.390 Gregory Michael Kestin: I think, I mean, I think that there's… 31 00:04:19.329 --> 00:04:23.229 Gregory Michael Kestin: you know, like you're saying, Josh, you know, like, bringing in, you know, real 32 00:04:23.380 --> 00:04:30.330 Gregory Michael Kestin: you know, data and, like, sort of compelling images like Mars, I think that 33 00:04:31.150 --> 00:04:41.959 Gregory Michael Kestin: I mean, how do you think… actually, one quick question about that. How do you think… I guess we'd be, like, looking at, like, sort of the inverse projection when it's Mars, right? 34 00:04:42.040 --> 00:04:53.770 Gregory Michael Kestin: In a way, because, like, usually, like, you're inside a spherical… you're inside the sphere, and then we put it on the globe, and it's sort of, like, the inverse. Is that right, Josh? Is that what… I'm just trying to. 35 00:04:53.770 --> 00:05:00.690 Joshua A Widdicombe: Like, doing a 360, like, surface-level, like, imagery? Is that what you're talking about, or… 36 00:05:00.850 --> 00:05:02.590 Joshua A Widdicombe: Or, oh, our projections. 37 00:05:02.850 --> 00:05:03.830 Stephen Guerin: Yeah, so if they're. 38 00:05:03.830 --> 00:05:04.609 Joshua A Widdicombe: I mean, we could… 39 00:05:05.580 --> 00:05:11.040 Stephen Guerin: Yeah, my understanding was surface, not like a first-person view, right? Of… Marshall. 40 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:25.939 Gregory Michael Kestin: Oh, oh, perfect, okay. I was… I was getting confused. Thank you. Yeah. So yeah, no, Mars, that… that's… that's amazing, right? Like, the things that we show, on, like, the Moon and… and Mars and things like that from, like, satellite imagery and stuff like that, from, like. 41 00:05:25.940 --> 00:05:30.590 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, exactly. We have a lot of satellite imagery scans available for both 42 00:05:30.860 --> 00:05:39.639 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, so we could probably even do… I could probably actually do both, and just, you know, say, here's the moon, here's Mars, here's… 43 00:05:39.640 --> 00:05:40.365 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah. 44 00:05:41.090 --> 00:05:44.060 Joshua A Widdicombe: For topologies, and scans, and like… 45 00:05:44.320 --> 00:05:49.380 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, and I think… I think rotation, you know, is very doable. I… I don't… 46 00:05:49.530 --> 00:05:52.940 Joshua A Widdicombe: I think doing a… north-south rotation. 47 00:05:52.940 --> 00:05:53.830 Gregory Michael Kestin: Wouldn't. Yeah. 48 00:05:53.830 --> 00:05:57.630 Joshua A Widdicombe: Right now is the trickiest, because it… in the way we're projecting it. 49 00:05:57.790 --> 00:06:00.959 Joshua A Widdicombe: It would distort pretty heavily. 50 00:06:00.960 --> 00:06:03.460 Gregory Michael Kestin: I don't think we need that. I mean… 51 00:06:03.460 --> 00:06:06.760 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, so I'm just gonna go east-west, kinda… 52 00:06:07.220 --> 00:06:10.410 Joshua A Widdicombe: you know, rotation and not do… Yeah. 53 00:06:10.410 --> 00:06:13.129 Devon Bryant: It would be interesting to dive into eventually, like, what. 54 00:06:13.130 --> 00:06:13.840 Joshua A Widdicombe: you know. 55 00:06:13.840 --> 00:06:17.980 Devon Bryant: What that requires to… to… alter… 56 00:06:18.400 --> 00:06:21.909 Devon Bryant: It in a way where it could be moved like that. 57 00:06:22.660 --> 00:06:23.250 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah. 58 00:06:23.820 --> 00:06:24.680 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah. 59 00:06:25.680 --> 00:06:42.999 Gregory Michael Kestin: And I think… I mean, I think… and like you're saying, Steven, I think it would be wonderful if we could actually invite, like, the entire audience to, you know, in the same way we sim table, have, like, web interactives. 60 00:06:43.030 --> 00:06:56.850 Gregory Michael Kestin: You know, if there's some, some cool, like, you know, like, the, like, you know, the pandemic or, or wildfire, like, the pandemic one, right? This is, like, something that is obviously a real thing that. 61 00:06:56.850 --> 00:07:00.129 Stephen Guerin: Look at air traffic, how did that change? Yeah, yeah. 62 00:07:00.130 --> 00:07:12.089 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah. On the globe. You could imagine a simulated version of, like, you know, a pandemic, or a simulated volcano, and how it affects, you know… 63 00:07:12.350 --> 00:07:12.730 Stephen Guerin: Corporate. 64 00:07:12.730 --> 00:07:19.700 Gregory Michael Kestin: you know, you could imagine that everybody is sort of, like, interacting with the Earth, or… 65 00:07:19.810 --> 00:07:22.869 Gregory Michael Kestin: You know, you could imagine, 66 00:07:23.440 --> 00:07:27.720 Gregory Michael Kestin: Anyway, I mean, I leave it to you. You're the… I'm muted. 67 00:07:28.040 --> 00:07:35.240 Stephen Guerin: So I think, yeah, so rotation, and then it's time, and then you can have a whole bunch on, whether we have iPad or other screens. 68 00:07:35.280 --> 00:07:48.420 Stephen Guerin: kind of a catalytic, go to this event, like this hurricane, this tsunami, this pandemic, and pandemic may be the rate of spread, but being able to go to the time and letting people play with it, the timeline of the Earth, right? 69 00:07:48.420 --> 00:07:49.810 Gregory Michael Kestin: That's cool. 70 00:07:49.810 --> 00:07:52.280 Stephen Guerin: And then you have all the different layers. Yeah. 71 00:07:52.280 --> 00:08:03.880 Gregory Michael Kestin: I wonder, is there anything, so, like, one thing I love about SimTable is that, it's not, you know, everybody can, like, you know. 72 00:08:03.880 --> 00:08:22.129 Gregory Michael Kestin: get a airplane to drop water, and an excavator, and everyone can light a fire. I wonder if there's, like, an analogous thing that we could do so that, like, every member of the audience could be doing things such that they're interacting with something that's happening in the world. That's why, like, I sort of… 73 00:08:22.170 --> 00:08:42.170 Gregory Michael Kestin: you know, I mean, it's not… it's… it's not a good idea. This is just… but just… just… the… the pandemic one is, like, everyone can release a virus and see, like, how it spreads across the globe, you know, in accelerated time. Maybe we don't want to do that one, but, like, you know, maybe there is, like, 74 00:08:42.659 --> 00:08:44.960 Gregory Michael Kestin: I… something… 75 00:08:44.960 --> 00:09:03.990 Devon Bryant: Frankly, right now, I'd love to see visualizations of, the oil moving across the country, or the world, and not specifically. I think, like, something like that, like, to visualize, like, those interconnected systems, like, our systems like that, you know, we're literally, like… 76 00:09:04.410 --> 00:09:08.030 Stephen Guerin: Yeah, so having all the ship and air traffic, that you can go anytime, and there's a lot of. 77 00:09:08.030 --> 00:09:11.939 Devon Bryant: Yeah, yeah, I love the air traffic situation one. I mean, that's… 78 00:09:12.340 --> 00:09:14.989 Stephen Guerin: And the weather is pretty… you know, we can get… 79 00:09:15.250 --> 00:09:18.579 Stephen Guerin: A good archive to go to any date as well, yeah. 80 00:09:19.240 --> 00:09:19.990 Gregory Michael Kestin: Hmm. 81 00:09:20.810 --> 00:09:27.400 Joshua A Widdicombe: Is that… do you think that's within scope to do before the, talk, depending if it's the 13th, 20th, or, you know, if we do enough? 82 00:09:27.930 --> 00:09:37.719 Devon Bryant: Oh, real quick on that, Josh. I just… I just checked my schedule. That 13th, I don't need to be to Clarman until 3 p.m. 83 00:09:37.830 --> 00:09:40.689 Devon Bryant: So if this is a… if this is a noon thing… 84 00:09:41.240 --> 00:09:43.390 Devon Bryant: Okay. Is that what we're thinking? 85 00:09:43.390 --> 00:09:45.140 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, very likely, I think a new noon. 86 00:09:45.140 --> 00:09:53.579 Devon Bryant: Oh, okay. Yeah, if it's noon, then we're… there's no conflicts for me. I could… I could just, you know, cut out of there, like, 2.50 and make it to… to Klarmen and be fine, so… 87 00:09:54.100 --> 00:09:56.360 Joshua A Widdicombe: Okay, yeah, that sounds… so it's, 88 00:09:56.900 --> 00:09:59.969 Joshua A Widdicombe: Well, we'll lock down the exact date, but let's, like, let's try to do… 89 00:09:59.970 --> 00:10:02.290 Devon Bryant: Alright, cool, I just wanted to mention that while I was seeing it. 90 00:10:03.460 --> 00:10:14.209 Stephen Guerin: And so, yeah, maybe my goal would be a little bit of a user submission and warping, and then a time event, just the beginning of… so if you think of an event as a time… 91 00:10:14.460 --> 00:10:18.369 Stephen Guerin: and layers, You know, a collection of layers. 92 00:10:18.600 --> 00:10:31.210 Stephen Guerin: That can be animated, too. So that's one definition. And how do we then make that MD file for others to submit, right? To, like, here's what you need to have your claw generate something for us, right? 93 00:10:31.570 --> 00:10:36.939 Stephen Guerin: Of course they can do it manually, but, the other thing, you know, another one is just… 94 00:10:37.110 --> 00:10:50.319 Stephen Guerin: Photos, you know, people… if you're on your laptop and you have all of your photos archived, just plot them over time with events. And now they're just gonna show up as pins or little thumbnails on the globe. 95 00:10:50.320 --> 00:11:03.839 Stephen Guerin: But then maybe, as you select them, they could be on another screen, but not… but we wouldn't be uploading them, which would be kind of a unique thing. It'd be running from their laptops, so that's, like, a leading-edge thing that we're looking at, you know. 96 00:11:04.580 --> 00:11:05.040 Gregory Michael Kestin: Hmm. 97 00:11:05.040 --> 00:11:24.270 Joshua A Widdicombe: So, what do you, what do you think, I, I think any kind of interactive, like, anything that's a sand table, where you join in the QR code, and then you have some kind of interaction on the sphere would be a good segue from that. I think definitely, like, whatever you think is achievable within scope for, like, you know, say, how many days till the 13th right now? 98 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:32.699 Stephen Guerin: And half of this may be non-geographic, too, just the art of what you do on top of an orb, right? 99 00:11:33.130 --> 00:11:33.989 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, so September… 100 00:11:33.990 --> 00:11:34.550 Stephen Guerin: For some of them. 101 00:11:34.550 --> 00:11:40.979 Joshua A Widdicombe: So, I guess we… That's, Friday? It's, no, no, sorry, that's… I went… 102 00:11:40.980 --> 00:11:41.770 Stephen Guerin: Monday? 103 00:11:41.990 --> 00:11:43.000 Joshua A Widdicombe: Monday. Okay. 104 00:11:43.340 --> 00:11:44.040 Joshua A Widdicombe: So… 105 00:11:44.040 --> 00:11:44.650 Stephen Guerin: Fuck. 106 00:11:44.870 --> 00:11:50.269 Stephen Guerin: I'll knock… I'll keep 9 to 2 open until we get a date, or time, yeah? 107 00:11:50.660 --> 00:11:52.690 Joshua A Widdicombe: Is that day, you're in town as well, Steven? 108 00:11:53.110 --> 00:11:53.740 Stephen Guerin: Yes. 109 00:11:54.250 --> 00:11:54.870 Joshua A Widdicombe: Okay. 110 00:11:55.250 --> 00:12:00.269 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, I mean, if there's something, I think we don't have to, like… 111 00:12:01.070 --> 00:12:10.029 Joshua A Widdicombe: I guess I want to make sure we… I think we're primarily going to be presentation and concept beyond, like, a full demo, but, like, however much you think you want to… 112 00:12:10.340 --> 00:12:14.999 Joshua A Widdicombe: get into that. I think just mainly covering some main points about, like. 113 00:12:15.200 --> 00:12:23.750 Joshua A Widdicombe: interaction, and… and if you want to include data sets or agent modeling, I think we could do that, but whatever isn't within scope, I think as long as we just achieve, like. 114 00:12:24.240 --> 00:12:24.819 Joshua A Widdicombe: the basic 115 00:12:25.240 --> 00:12:34.089 Joshua A Widdicombe: We're talking… I think this first talk is primarily gonna be, like, concept and, prototype implementations, like, demo content. 116 00:12:34.120 --> 00:12:45.710 Joshua A Widdicombe: And I think moving forward past this, you know, we can start working with some researchers. Hopefully we're in the crowd and want to, like, participate and, and, 117 00:12:45.770 --> 00:12:50.319 Joshua A Widdicombe: I think maybe… as long as we make sure of that, because I think… I think… 118 00:12:50.320 --> 00:12:51.070 Stephen Guerin: Awesome. 119 00:12:51.070 --> 00:12:56.180 Joshua A Widdicombe: I don't expect us to have, like, a final, you know, product or anything for anything that's gonna be… 120 00:12:56.180 --> 00:12:56.590 Stephen Guerin: Honestly. 121 00:12:56.590 --> 00:13:00.849 Joshua A Widdicombe: Out of… but, you know, whatever steps we can make to showcase the… 122 00:13:00.850 --> 00:13:01.390 Stephen Guerin: Cooler, bro. 123 00:13:01.390 --> 00:13:04.429 Joshua A Widdicombe: the vision of this, I think that's the primary, like… 124 00:13:04.430 --> 00:13:07.739 Stephen Guerin: And this is to Susan and to who else? 125 00:13:08.930 --> 00:13:10.290 Stephen Guerin: I'm the presentation. 126 00:13:10.290 --> 00:13:13.429 Gregory Michael Kestin: On inviting just faculty… the faculty, the science faculty. 127 00:13:13.430 --> 00:13:26.650 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, this is gonna be a general presentation to the Cabot Library, anyone who wants to walk through and sit down and talk to, you know, talk to us about it. So it's gonna be a pretty open, format, and it might attract a bunch of different people who we don't expect to be there. 128 00:13:27.130 --> 00:13:42.019 Gregory Michael Kestin: I mean, I was sort of… yeah, actually, I was imagining this, Josh, to be, something that was, like, we… I think we could, you know, sort of have it be a little free form, but I think that we want to at least start, so, like. 129 00:13:42.210 --> 00:14:00.660 Gregory Michael Kestin: at least this is how I'm imagining it, but I'm totally happy with, you know, adjustments to this, but I'm sort of imagining, like, we'll, like, have some food, you know, like, maybe it's, like, noon or one, and invite faculty at a certain time, say we're gonna do 15 minutes of, like, presentation. 130 00:14:00.720 --> 00:14:13.890 Gregory Michael Kestin: And then, you know, people can play. So grab a snack, we'll give them a little show of, like, you know, I can imagine, like, each of us will do… will, you know, we could each have, like, 131 00:14:14.060 --> 00:14:35.309 Gregory Michael Kestin: a small project or two, so Josh, like, you know, you could do, like, right, like, you could do, like, Mars with layers, and then maybe some of the John Shaw, related things. You know, Andreas also, if he wanted, you know, to come and talk about that. You know, and then I feel like, you know. 132 00:14:35.310 --> 00:14:36.730 Gregory Michael Kestin: Steven, if, you know. 133 00:14:36.880 --> 00:14:56.879 Gregory Michael Kestin: agent simulations or web interactions, however, you know, I think… I think, like… like Josh was saying, like, if we can have some sort of, like, agent-related simulation where people get to really… where they get to, you know, feel like they really have, interactions with each other on the sphere, like their phones allow them to. 134 00:14:56.880 --> 00:14:57.260 Stephen Guerin: to begin. 135 00:14:57.260 --> 00:15:03.140 Gregory Michael Kestin: agent in the world, I think that's… that'd be amazing, but again, like, if that's not… 136 00:15:03.270 --> 00:15:20.609 Gregory Michael Kestin: if that is not within scope, like Josh is saying, like, totally understandable. And then I, I'm… I'll play around, there's, like, some various, like, particle, like, particle collider-y things from my… my, like, particle physics days, I can imagine. 137 00:15:20.910 --> 00:15:30.930 Gregory Michael Kestin: Doing, because, like, Large Hadron Collider collisions, like, everything goes out in a sphere. Actually, my… my thesis, my PhD thesis was actually about spheres. 138 00:15:30.930 --> 00:15:32.489 Stephen Guerin: There we go. 139 00:15:32.490 --> 00:15:41.759 Gregory Michael Kestin: It was, it was called, yeah, it was called light shell theory. It was a shell of light where particles come out. So. 140 00:15:41.760 --> 00:15:44.409 Stephen Guerin: You and your circle cows, you physicists. 141 00:15:44.410 --> 00:15:59.719 Gregory Michael Kestin: That is actually very, very apropos. And then, Devin, I don't know, you know, you have a very, I would say, a special set of skills that nobody else has, so, you know, and I, so, you know, anything that you find compelling, too. 142 00:15:59.750 --> 00:16:11.519 Gregory Michael Kestin: So, you know, I would… maybe we can each, you know, plan for, you know, like, if we each plan for just a few minutes of… of demonstrating this. 143 00:16:11.650 --> 00:16:17.190 Gregory Michael Kestin: I think that… and then move it to freeform. I mean, feel free to push back, Josh, if you had a different, 144 00:16:17.190 --> 00:16:18.659 Joshua A Widdicombe: No, that sounds good. 145 00:16:19.240 --> 00:16:23.180 Joshua A Widdicombe: I like that. Yeah, I mean, we all bring something to the table here, and I think we can 146 00:16:23.290 --> 00:16:29.790 Joshua A Widdicombe: We can really, like, showcase our skills and what we're, you know, our focus is, and make some cohesive, like. 147 00:16:30.040 --> 00:16:35.560 Joshua A Widdicombe: presentation of what the sphere can do, and I think, like, if Devin wants to show content, like, stuff he's worked on. 148 00:16:35.560 --> 00:16:46.450 Devon Bryant: Yeah, no, I think generally… I think generally what I'd want to do is just bring in, like, my C4D files, plug into that projector, and just kind of show the… 149 00:16:46.620 --> 00:16:53.010 Devon Bryant: like, the 360 camera situation that I've been using to build the art on the… on the sphere there. 150 00:16:53.010 --> 00:16:55.139 Stephen Guerin: Like a Riku kind of thing, Devin? 151 00:16:55.140 --> 00:16:55.990 Devon Bryant: What's that? 152 00:16:55.990 --> 00:16:58.209 Stephen Guerin: Like a Ricoh or Insta360? 153 00:16:58.210 --> 00:17:01.099 Devon Bryant: So, no, I mean, it's a virtual camera, but it's. 154 00:17:01.100 --> 00:17:02.300 Stephen Guerin: Oh, okay. 155 00:17:02.300 --> 00:17:08.189 Devon Bryant: Like, you know, you know, like, the 360 cameras, you know, basically are like… 156 00:17:08.390 --> 00:17:11.729 Devon Bryant: Camera, and it's shooting out in all directions, right? 157 00:17:11.730 --> 00:17:12.170 Stephen Guerin: Yeah, yeah. 158 00:17:12.170 --> 00:17:22.360 Devon Bryant: But, like, the dome camera to actually make sphere content is the opposite. It's actually, like, a camera that's, like, pointed in in all directions. 159 00:17:23.910 --> 00:17:31.839 Devon Bryant: And it's really fascinating, too, because it's not, like, there's no perspective, or if there is perspective, it's very… 160 00:17:32.020 --> 00:17:38.020 Devon Bryant: like… it's really weird the way it translates it, so I'd love to just kind of show what the. 161 00:17:38.020 --> 00:17:38.400 Stephen Guerin: Okay. 162 00:17:38.400 --> 00:17:47.879 Devon Bryant: physical setup looks like, you know, outside of that camera, like, in the scene. And then what it renders out to, which is obviously that equally rectangular image. 163 00:17:48.220 --> 00:17:48.610 Stephen Guerin: That's right. 164 00:17:48.610 --> 00:17:54.789 Devon Bryant: back into the, you know, into, the software to come back on the sphere, you know. 165 00:17:55.550 --> 00:18:04.160 Stephen Guerin: And thinking of the space in the audience, if we, greg, maybe we reserve that little corner of, Cabot and bring down the big screen with a projector? 166 00:18:04.160 --> 00:18:11.530 Devon Bryant: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what I was, I was, I was envisioning, is… is us using that, that interior screen, you know, plugged into the app. 167 00:18:12.640 --> 00:18:17.750 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, I think this did it. Yeah, we can maybe position the spheres in a different location to be… 168 00:18:17.940 --> 00:18:26.049 Joshua A Widdicombe: you know, part of that, but yeah, I definitely think that, yeah, that we're planning to do the big screen and the, I forget what Susan calls it. It's… it's like the… 169 00:18:26.570 --> 00:18:29.559 Joshua A Widdicombe: She has a weird, quirky name for it, for the. 170 00:18:29.560 --> 00:18:31.629 Devon Bryant: What, the screen itself, or… 171 00:18:31.630 --> 00:18:32.900 Joshua A Widdicombe: No, for the whole area, like, the. 172 00:18:32.900 --> 00:18:35.000 Devon Bryant: Oh, the Discovery Bar? 173 00:18:35.000 --> 00:18:35.470 Joshua A Widdicombe: Discovery. 174 00:18:36.460 --> 00:18:38.599 Devon Bryant: It's called the Discovery Bar. 175 00:18:38.600 --> 00:18:39.680 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah. 176 00:18:39.680 --> 00:18:47.659 Devon Bryant: Yeah, yeah, because it's, you know, the screen's there, and then the, you know, the steer's literally right there, so it's like, literally, like, we could just have things kind of… 177 00:18:47.820 --> 00:19:02.059 Devon Bryant: almost 45, and looking at both places are kind of curved around there. Yeah, yeah, I mean, I could definitely take up 5-10 minutes just talking about, you know, how I went about that process, and things that we could do. 178 00:19:03.330 --> 00:19:08.710 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, that'd be cool. I think that sounds good for all accounts. Oh, just a random idea too, Steven, like, 179 00:19:08.920 --> 00:19:12.720 Joshua A Widdicombe: It… it… could you… would… say we did, like, a… 180 00:19:13.330 --> 00:19:19.629 Joshua A Widdicombe: People joined in on their phone on a sphere, like, maybe we did, like, something like a wave propagation in the ocean or something, like, you just… 181 00:19:19.820 --> 00:19:22.349 Joshua A Widdicombe: That tap on the screen, and, like, you get a… you start. 182 00:19:22.350 --> 00:19:22.759 Gregory Michael Kestin: Pretty neatly. 183 00:19:22.760 --> 00:19:27.119 Joshua A Widdicombe: wave that propagates, and then other people can do the same, and they cancel, like, things like that might be cool to see. 184 00:19:27.960 --> 00:19:34.350 Joshua A Widdicombe: Because people could, you know, get direct feedback to, like, an input to a thing happening on the screen, 185 00:19:34.480 --> 00:19:37.019 Joshua A Widdicombe: just to, to show, because I think that, that… 186 00:19:37.140 --> 00:19:50.370 Joshua A Widdicombe: this is a cool thing about Sandbox I've always, like, really… people don't quite get yet, and don't, like, they see, like, the power of that when you start to have your phone as this interface, which has been… 187 00:19:50.800 --> 00:19:58.159 Joshua A Widdicombe: not… I've not seen that done very often, and I think really just, like, the ability for people to, like, meaningfully, like. 188 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:15.229 Joshua A Widdicombe: interact with this and together in a collaborative sense versus just, like, a solo kind of thing. Something like that, but that's just a random idea. If you have, like, things you want to do, I think, whatever you think would want to showcase any of those aspects, but. 189 00:20:15.230 --> 00:20:15.610 Stephen Guerin: You know. 190 00:20:15.610 --> 00:20:18.950 Joshua A Widdicombe: Or anything you want to do as far as… yeah. That was just a random thought. 191 00:20:19.170 --> 00:20:19.970 Joshua A Widdicombe: So… 192 00:20:20.700 --> 00:20:23.260 Stephen Guerin: Yeah, I mean, even the… go ahead. 193 00:20:23.750 --> 00:20:37.159 Gregory Michael Kestin: No, I was just gonna say, I was just, thinking of that idea, Josh, but then you combine it with the Earth, the obvious thing, then, is tsunamis. Like, anybody can create a tsunami, and then you just, like, you speed up time. 194 00:20:37.160 --> 00:20:50.779 Gregory Michael Kestin: And then you could have people, like, you know… or you could even move tectonic plates and see what they do, or… I don't know, you know, but I think, you know, you know, I'm just thinking, you know, 195 00:20:51.180 --> 00:21:08.349 Gregory Michael Kestin: on the sand table, it's… it's nice that we have the mountains, that's the right format for that, and so I was just trying to brainstorm. For, like, a spherical surface, what would be the right interaction? So maybe it is something on the Earth, something on a planet. 196 00:21:08.350 --> 00:21:19.560 Gregory Michael Kestin: something. But I love that. I love, yeah, like, Waves is, like, beautiful, because they, like, they sort of, you know, go out and they interact with each other and stuff like that. 197 00:21:20.640 --> 00:21:40.210 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, stuff like that might be really cool to see, or just, like, yeah, on that global scale, because we are… with this format, we are kind of, we have that, I don't want to say, meta, but it's more of a, you know, it's more of, like, a… we have that perspective that we're stuck with, the global perspective, versus the really granular views, 198 00:21:40.600 --> 00:21:46.679 Joshua A Widdicombe: And yeah, maybe, maybe, yeah, we can figure out playing with something. Like, I do would… I would love to see some… 199 00:21:47.230 --> 00:21:56.240 Joshua A Widdicombe: like, kind of zoomed-in feature later on, maybe we can, like, do, like, John Shaw's data only works on, like, a really smaller scale. I haven't seen many global 200 00:21:56.420 --> 00:22:01.429 Joshua A Widdicombe: data sets, but, and go to Steven's, like, SIM stuff, because it's all. 201 00:22:01.430 --> 00:22:02.280 Stephen Guerin: But. 202 00:22:02.520 --> 00:22:06.899 Joshua A Widdicombe: You know, within a city, within a region, so we could… it would need to be… 203 00:22:06.920 --> 00:22:07.510 Stephen Guerin: Management. 204 00:22:07.510 --> 00:22:14.379 Joshua A Widdicombe: we didn't have, like, context, and it doesn't work so much. When you're looking at the Globe version of it, it's just, like… 205 00:22:14.880 --> 00:22:23.669 Joshua A Widdicombe: I don't know, 100 pixels out of the entire sphere, and that just does seem like a waste of real estate to focus too much on, like. 206 00:22:23.880 --> 00:22:27.800 Joshua A Widdicombe: Those regions, but on the, you know, it's all on the global scale that it works. 207 00:22:28.010 --> 00:22:28.810 Joshua A Widdicombe: Still. 208 00:22:29.350 --> 00:22:32.070 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah… 209 00:22:33.530 --> 00:22:47.020 Gregory Michael Kestin: It'd be so… you know, I feel like it's, like, this is such, like, a new, like, world that it's, like, it's kind of hard to think, because, you know, so many people, like, people haven't done this before, but, like, you know, I could imagine… 210 00:22:47.260 --> 00:22:59.270 Gregory Michael Kestin: You know, if you imagine over the timescale of, like, thousands of years, the way that species interact. 211 00:22:59.590 --> 00:23:18.589 Gregory Michael Kestin: That would be… I don't know how… I don't know how you would do it, and how to make sure it would be accurate. Maybe we'd have to get, like, a faculty member who works on it, but it would be so interesting if you could be like, okay, let's have our, like, birds live here, and then over years, you sort of see how they, like, diversify. 212 00:23:18.590 --> 00:23:23.049 Gregory Michael Kestin: Like, and expand over, like, continents and things like that. 213 00:23:24.270 --> 00:23:34.879 Gregory Michael Kestin: But I don't… I'm not… I know this is probably, like, a much too ambitious a thing, and I think Steven's like, I don't know if that's possible on a short time scale, but… 214 00:23:34.880 --> 00:23:39.899 Joshua A Widdicombe: concepts, I think we could definitely, like, mention that. Like, if we want to conceptualize a lot. 215 00:23:39.900 --> 00:23:40.380 Gregory Michael Kestin: Right. 216 00:23:40.380 --> 00:23:42.580 Joshua A Widdicombe: about the potentials, 217 00:23:42.580 --> 00:23:43.120 Gregory Michael Kestin: Right. 218 00:23:43.120 --> 00:23:50.200 Joshua A Widdicombe: I think maybe, like, you know, we couldn't… we won't be able to present those, but we… if we have cool ideas like that. 219 00:23:50.480 --> 00:23:51.180 Joshua A Widdicombe: Now's the time. 220 00:23:51.180 --> 00:23:51.770 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah. 221 00:23:51.770 --> 00:24:04.280 Joshua A Widdicombe: concepts or possible projects, and maybe showcase some element of that. I think Steven's great about… he has a lot of really cool, like, agent, sims and things that… 222 00:24:04.380 --> 00:24:19.539 Joshua A Widdicombe: that kind of… you can see the point, you know, the progression. You say, this is one point in this progression of this project, and then the natural flow to, you know, the end is going to be full-on, like, evolution simulation, or, like, 223 00:24:19.690 --> 00:24:22.840 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, things like that, that… How's this. 224 00:24:22.840 --> 00:24:23.380 Gregory Michael Kestin: This is cool. 225 00:24:23.700 --> 00:24:24.510 Joshua A Widdicombe: Is this the… 226 00:24:25.400 --> 00:24:32.439 Stephen Guerin: But, no, this was, you know, there's another story here that's related to the AI in classes, where… 227 00:24:32.620 --> 00:24:43.970 Stephen Guerin: how can a student or faculty make a geospatial simulation without having to be someone that understands Lattice Boltzmann or anything like… or any kind of… 228 00:24:44.260 --> 00:24:57.719 Stephen Guerin: at the lower level, they can just specify what they want. So this is an example in the landscape architecture. Here's the students where we were just able to bring in the map, and then I was 229 00:24:58.120 --> 00:25:07.790 Stephen Guerin: showing them how to bring in the elevation of the world, as an underlying thing. So here's, like, the elevation tiles, and then. 230 00:25:07.790 --> 00:25:08.230 Gregory Michael Kestin: Mmm. 231 00:25:08.230 --> 00:25:10.499 Stephen Guerin: Being… being able then to… 232 00:25:11.330 --> 00:25:19.759 Stephen Guerin: you know, this was normally for Charlestown, but it just works anywhere in the world now, so we can say, what if we did have this much sea level rise, right? 233 00:25:20.110 --> 00:25:21.240 Stephen Guerin: Yeah. Yeah. 234 00:25:21.520 --> 00:25:24.489 Stephen Guerin: And so now that's gonna be small on the… 235 00:25:24.900 --> 00:25:28.950 Stephen Guerin: dome, or the ore, sphere, however… 236 00:25:29.110 --> 00:25:38.270 Stephen Guerin: You know, there's ways of, like, if someone select… on their phone, they can be selected in here, and you can see, maybe, rectangles where people are playing, and then you could… 237 00:25:38.270 --> 00:25:38.650 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah. 238 00:25:38.650 --> 00:25:53.140 Stephen Guerin: select one to come up on the big projector or the screen. So it's kind of this multi… multi-view, so it's a question of whether… will there be a big LCD screen next to it, or is it going to be a big iPad, or something on a podium? 239 00:25:53.350 --> 00:26:00.690 Stephen Guerin: But there's… you know, or there's these, you know, touchscreen, you know, these IDM kind of things at museums. 240 00:26:01.080 --> 00:26:09.449 Stephen Guerin: Yeah. You know, just this multimodal for… especially when you need to go interaction, because you… you know, the phone is a certain thing, nicely, and . 241 00:26:09.450 --> 00:26:09.870 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah. 242 00:26:09.870 --> 00:26:13.199 Stephen Guerin: But, you know, having something that's a little bit more shared as well, yeah. 243 00:26:14.050 --> 00:26:17.380 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, I have the… I'm probably envisioning having, 244 00:26:17.760 --> 00:26:34.790 Joshua A Widdicombe: there's gonna be probably four displays on the sphere, there's gonna be the two spheres, the one control display, and I… if I… I'm pretty sure the computer that's hooked up now has the ability to do a fourth, and that one will be, like, a content capture. Fullscreen, we could do full-screen browser or something, and… 245 00:26:34.870 --> 00:26:39.429 Joshua A Widdicombe: That way we can seamlessly transition. But yeah, if you want to do something that's, like. 246 00:26:39.970 --> 00:26:45.339 Joshua A Widdicombe: I'll probably do it through Mad Mapper, too, so if you want to have things like context things that you switch out to, or like… 247 00:26:45.500 --> 00:26:47.489 Joshua A Widdicombe: We could absolutely do that and have this. 248 00:26:47.490 --> 00:26:47.920 Stephen Guerin: the tea. 249 00:26:47.920 --> 00:26:50.149 Joshua A Widdicombe: maybe, like, another, 250 00:26:50.340 --> 00:27:01.479 Joshua A Widdicombe: version, and, you know, presentation happens on the projector, but the TV is part of the, the content of the sphere, if that makes sense. So I could definitely set that up on the technical side. 251 00:27:04.450 --> 00:27:05.000 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yes. 252 00:27:08.340 --> 00:27:17.080 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah, you know, what do you guys think about this? Like, I feel like… Maybe… 253 00:27:18.210 --> 00:27:33.170 Gregory Michael Kestin: maybe what we should do is just create a… like, maybe take a day… I know that, you won't be here in person next week, Steven, but, you know, we could take a day next week 254 00:27:33.720 --> 00:27:51.110 Gregory Michael Kestin: you know, like, obviously later in the week, since it's Friday. Take a week to think about it, and, like, get… maybe, like, you know, each get an MVP or two of, like, a thing that we'd want to show, and then… then just… just, like, try to get it up on there, and we could do that 255 00:27:51.390 --> 00:27:55.390 Gregory Michael Kestin: We can do that, you know, toward… 256 00:27:55.600 --> 00:27:58.910 Gregory Michael Kestin: Wait, am I… hold on, am I here at the end of next week? 257 00:27:59.370 --> 00:28:15.280 Gregory Michael Kestin: the end of next week, oh, I'm not… I'm out of town the end of next week, but I… but we could… we could do it virtually, we could also do the beginning of the following week, but I feel like, you know, maybe we could get a Google Doc and start playing with some ideas in there. 258 00:28:15.410 --> 00:28:29.630 Gregory Michael Kestin: And then… and then, like, choose a day where we, like, do… we do a little demo, like, for each other. And we can, like, iterate from there and say, okay, let's maybe tweak it this way, tweak it that way, and just get, like, feedback on each other's thoughts. 259 00:28:29.820 --> 00:28:32.470 Gregory Michael Kestin: How does that sound? 260 00:28:33.230 --> 00:28:35.120 Joshua A Widdicombe: That sounds good. Yeah, I think… 261 00:28:35.740 --> 00:28:42.779 Gregory Michael Kestin: I mean, we could… maybe just so we don't, like, feel too crunched over time, maybe we could do… we should do, like. 262 00:28:43.470 --> 00:28:48.479 Gregory Michael Kestin: this, like, we could do, like, Monday the 6th. I mean, it's like… 263 00:28:48.670 --> 00:28:52.090 Gregory Michael Kestin: I guess it's… that's, like, kind of half… well, that would be a week. 264 00:28:52.330 --> 00:28:59.149 Gregory Michael Kestin: before the 13th, but I don't… but yeah, but we can always push it off if we don't… if we don't feel… 265 00:28:59.620 --> 00:29:06.000 Gregory Michael Kestin: like, we're ready, you know? Like, I don't think we should announce this until, like, if we feel, like, ready on… 266 00:29:06.160 --> 00:29:13.770 Gregory Michael Kestin: You know, the 6th, then we would, so, you know, maybe, 267 00:29:13.900 --> 00:29:22.449 Gregory Michael Kestin: maybe we can plan for, like, do a little demo, like, day, and, like, Steven, we can get you… we can just, like, zoom you in to the library. 268 00:29:22.470 --> 00:29:35.229 Gregory Michael Kestin: And play around, and see how, like, we're feeling, to see if, like, do we feel like, you know, a week out, we'd be good, and we can, like, iterate on a Google Doc until then, and over email? 269 00:29:36.050 --> 00:29:39.919 Gregory Michael Kestin: Does that seem like a good… a good way to do it? Because it gives us sort of, like. 270 00:29:40.230 --> 00:29:54.219 Gregory Michael Kestin: gives us a timeline, and then also… I mean, I'm also, like, happy to… if we want to meet, like, also next week, to just, like, sort of, like, play around with the ideas of, because I feel like, I mean, I, 271 00:29:54.380 --> 00:30:03.920 Gregory Michael Kestin: So, like, one thing that I did was, I, like… I have, like, a list of things, I'm not sure… 272 00:30:05.960 --> 00:30:11.819 Gregory Michael Kestin: Let's see, who's, can I… who's the host? Josh, can I share? I don't know, and Steven. 273 00:30:11.820 --> 00:30:13.500 Stephen Guerin: Oh, yeah, there you go. 274 00:30:13.500 --> 00:30:15.229 Gregory Michael Kestin: Okay, thank you. 275 00:30:15.260 --> 00:30:29.790 Gregory Michael Kestin: So, like, you know, I put together this list… well, obviously Claude and I put together a list of, like, many different things, and I'd love to just, like, maybe I'll try to, like, play around and put some… 276 00:30:29.790 --> 00:30:45.900 Gregory Michael Kestin: I'll put this in… actually, I'll make a Google Drive that has this document, as well as, maybe, like, each of… a document where we can all sort of, like, gather the ideas that we're, like, planning to work on. 277 00:30:46.260 --> 00:30:52.040 Gregory Michael Kestin: But, like, you know, it seems like, you know, like, obviously, like. 278 00:30:52.390 --> 00:31:08.340 Gregory Michael Kestin: so many of these seem like such great ideas, like auroras, like, you know, making a solar flare, like, you know, the users can do solar flares, you know, this, like, the wind… the wind, like you were showing from that professor, Steven, or, like, Gulfstream. 279 00:31:09.010 --> 00:31:18.250 Gregory Michael Kestin: You know, you know, so I think that, like, like, and so that, so basically, these are, like, ideas from many… 280 00:31:18.330 --> 00:31:29.840 Gregory Michael Kestin: Of, you know, many… these are not… these aren't all, like, great, but, they're, like, kind of some starting off points, that we could sort of… we could just, like. 281 00:31:30.320 --> 00:31:32.210 Gregory Michael Kestin: explore. 282 00:31:32.470 --> 00:31:33.590 Stephen Guerin: And so… 283 00:31:33.590 --> 00:31:45.469 Gregory Michael Kestin: So maybe I'll put that in a drive, and we can start working in a drive, and then, like, maybe what we can do is, like, next… maybe sometime next week, we can, like. 284 00:31:45.560 --> 00:31:58.100 Gregory Michael Kestin: Just each have at least, like, one of the things that we, like, we are, we would… that would, like, our top, like, you know, showstopper that we each, like, think we, we would want to show. 285 00:31:58.100 --> 00:31:58.800 Stephen Guerin: Better than you. 286 00:31:59.050 --> 00:32:03.780 Gregory Michael Kestin: And then at least that gives us, like, a starting point, 287 00:32:04.070 --> 00:32:11.229 Gregory Michael Kestin: And, you know, we can do multiple, like, if you want to do, you know, 3 or whatever, that's obviously fine, too. 288 00:32:11.430 --> 00:32:22.809 Gregory Michael Kestin: But, and oh, and I also, in this document, I just wanted to say, I also have a list of different professors, like, for example, who do, like, exoplanets and stuff. 289 00:32:22.910 --> 00:32:40.949 Gregory Michael Kestin: And, you know, and so, you know, if I, reach out to anybody, I'll CC you guys, but, also, if any of you, like, for example, Steven, if you want to reach out to that professor that you were just mentioning, about, like, the WIN map. 290 00:32:41.060 --> 00:32:53.219 Gregory Michael Kestin: just… maybe just either send us, like, a note or put it in the Google Doc or CC so that we don't overlap with who we reach out to, but, like, if there are professors that… 291 00:32:53.350 --> 00:33:06.500 Gregory Michael Kestin: either, like, say, Josh, you want to reach out to, or you want me to reach out to for us, I'm, like, happy to, because this is one of, like, John Shaw's priorities, was to sort of, like, make sure we're not just, like. 292 00:33:06.680 --> 00:33:15.709 Gregory Michael Kestin: You know, coming up with things that, you know, out of our very creative minds, but, like, also to sort of, 293 00:33:16.330 --> 00:33:34.839 Gregory Michael Kestin: get ideas for, like, you know, because I think, I think that, you know, for instructors, we'll give them a lot of good ideas, but for researchers, I'm sure that these, these folks, in, like, climate science and, you know, these other, like, you know. 294 00:33:35.290 --> 00:33:45.310 Gregory Michael Kestin: I think that they'll probably… let's see, like, computer science, you know, EPS, Astro, you know, they'll… I think they'll have good ideas. So… 295 00:33:45.410 --> 00:33:51.269 Gregory Michael Kestin: I don't know, I guess I'm sort of, like, Suggesting we, like. 296 00:33:51.630 --> 00:33:57.339 Gregory Michael Kestin: You know, scattershot, until maybe later next week, when 297 00:33:57.340 --> 00:34:15.499 Gregory Michael Kestin: maybe by the end of next week, we can, like, each, like, get onto a doc, a thing that we feel like this is a thing, and we can, like, you know, send… we can send notes maybe on the… on each other's ideas on the Google Doc, and then maybe early the following week, we'll, like, do a demo after iterating with each other? 298 00:34:15.830 --> 00:34:17.879 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah, that sounds good. 299 00:34:17.880 --> 00:34:24.869 Joshua A Widdicombe: Sooner than later, it'd be good, just to start getting, the scope of each of our contributions to the talk. 300 00:34:24.980 --> 00:34:28.950 Joshua A Widdicombe: Like, I think, yeah, we can start to hone in and… 301 00:34:29.810 --> 00:34:31.980 Joshua A Widdicombe: Better understand, like, what, what, 302 00:34:32.340 --> 00:34:36.910 Joshua A Widdicombe: how we're gonna… is it gonna… I'm assuming it's, like, an hour talk or so, or, like, do you think it… I… 303 00:34:37.239 --> 00:34:51.569 Gregory Michael Kestin: I was just thinking, like, 15 minutes or… or, you know, I think that having people stand around with food for an hour is probably gonna be, like… I don't know, it's not quite the perfect venue. I mean, we can move it to, like, a… but I think that we just. 304 00:34:51.570 --> 00:34:57.599 Joshua A Widdicombe: Each of our parts will probably be about 15 minutes or so, but yeah. 305 00:34:57.600 --> 00:35:02.640 Stephen Guerin: We could have chairs… yeah, we could have chairs there. Maybe 15… 15-person audience, kind of? 306 00:35:02.640 --> 00:35:15.640 Gregory Michael Kestin: I think we want to keep it shorter. I don't… I don't think we want to do 15 minutes each. I think… just… just be… I mean, maybe, like, maybe a… maybe a half hour altogether or something, but I just… I want… I feel like the, 307 00:35:16.190 --> 00:35:29.179 Gregory Michael Kestin: you know, we were giving them, like, sort of, like, sprinkles of ideas for themselves, and so I don't want to get into, like, too much detail of, like, any one thing. 308 00:35:29.500 --> 00:35:36.390 Gregory Michael Kestin: And, you know, so I think that would just mean, like, a few minutes of each… of each thing. 309 00:35:36.630 --> 00:35:42.630 Gregory Michael Kestin: And I feel like if we give them more than, like, 10 things, it'll get pretty overwhelming. 310 00:35:43.240 --> 00:35:43.740 Joshua A Widdicombe: Okay, yeah. 311 00:35:43.740 --> 00:35:52.370 Gregory Michael Kestin: I don't know, unless there's… please, if you think that the longer is better, feel free to… . 312 00:35:53.460 --> 00:35:58.510 Joshua A Widdicombe: No, not necessarily. But, yeah. 313 00:35:58.510 --> 00:36:06.850 Gregory Michael Kestin: I think, I think, Josh, I think what we could do is, like, say, you know, well, like, the first half of the hour will, like, show you this cool stuff. 314 00:36:06.850 --> 00:36:22.979 Gregory Michael Kestin: And after that, you know, feel free to, you know, take off, stick around, we'll play around. Like, maybe we could… we could have each of the two spheres, like, be, like, a demonstration space, and then peop… then… then… so, like, we'll be demonstrating, like, with both. 315 00:36:22.980 --> 00:36:27.109 Gregory Michael Kestin: Maybe for that first, what, let's say 20 minutes, or something like that. 316 00:36:27.110 --> 00:36:32.139 Gregory Michael Kestin: Or half hour, you know, each doing our thing. And then… 317 00:36:32.310 --> 00:36:51.359 Gregory Michael Kestin: Then we say, okay, now, you know, you can go to either of them and play around, and maybe, you know, we could… we could say, like, on this sphere, we'll be playing around with, like, whatever the agentic systems, and over here, we're gonna look at, like, research-based things, and… or just chat with each other, or take off. 318 00:36:51.360 --> 00:36:54.569 Gregory Michael Kestin: And then that way, like, we don't lock people in. 319 00:36:54.570 --> 00:37:01.419 Gregory Michael Kestin: After we've sort of done, like, our… our lightning, our exciting lightning, you know, show of things. 320 00:37:01.440 --> 00:37:03.680 Gregory Michael Kestin: Is that… maybe that's the best way to do it. 321 00:37:04.330 --> 00:37:11.090 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, I definitely think some kind of Q&A and also interactively, just having people engage and ask questions would be very. 322 00:37:11.090 --> 00:37:11.520 Gregory Michael Kestin: Okay. 323 00:37:11.520 --> 00:37:12.030 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yep. 324 00:37:12.030 --> 00:37:13.130 Gregory Michael Kestin: That makes sense. 325 00:37:13.530 --> 00:37:14.799 Gregory Michael Kestin: That makes sense. 326 00:37:19.820 --> 00:37:24.430 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, so I think, I think that covered everything. I was… I probably will also, like. 327 00:37:24.700 --> 00:37:36.700 Joshua A Widdicombe: include some basic technical, like, talks about what the sphere is, how it works, and what pixel pitches, maybe, things like that, but, like, generally, I think, I'm starting to just already, 328 00:37:37.030 --> 00:37:39.510 Joshua A Widdicombe: Just game out, like, what… what… 329 00:37:39.710 --> 00:37:43.700 Joshua A Widdicombe: each talk could be about, but I think we can get that in the doc, and we can start to, like. 330 00:37:44.120 --> 00:37:46.980 Joshua A Widdicombe: Just kind of, you know, get everyone's, 331 00:37:47.290 --> 00:37:57.740 Joshua A Widdicombe: what they want to cover down, and then we can either, you know, reduce that, cut back, or figure out how much we should focus on each, and then, yeah, then move towards, like, a Q&A, kind of. 332 00:37:58.150 --> 00:38:01.849 Joshua A Widdicombe: Thing where people just come and ask us questions and talk about it, so we're… yeah. 333 00:38:03.470 --> 00:38:08.899 Joshua A Widdicombe: That sounds good. So I think that's probably, like, that's the stuff I wanted to cover. We could probably… 334 00:38:09.450 --> 00:38:20.400 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, so I guess, like, if you… if you want to make the doc, and we can definitely… I'd be down to contribute to that as soon as possible when we start having, you know, so we can kind of go through stuff. 335 00:38:21.020 --> 00:38:31.410 Gregory Michael Kestin: So I'm gonna do… so we have… Josh, we have… so you and I are on the spherical display, folder. 336 00:38:31.530 --> 00:38:36.800 Gregory Michael Kestin: And in there, we have, like, we have some things from Andreas. 337 00:38:36.940 --> 00:38:46.589 Gregory Michael Kestin: I wonder if we want to just, invite others to that same folder, or should you think I should… you wanted a different one, Josh? 338 00:38:47.040 --> 00:38:49.289 Joshua A Widdicombe: what… what account is that shared with? Just because I… 339 00:38:49.290 --> 00:38:50.030 Gregory Michael Kestin: Here. 340 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:55.920 Joshua A Widdicombe: I technically have a Google Harvard email, and I never check it. 341 00:38:55.920 --> 00:38:56.250 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah. 342 00:38:56.250 --> 00:38:58.130 Joshua A Widdicombe: I use my Outlook one, so… 343 00:38:58.130 --> 00:39:02.870 Gregory Michael Kestin: So, it's… it's the… your… it's your G… it's your g.harvard. 344 00:39:03.020 --> 00:39:03.680 Gregory Michael Kestin: one. 345 00:39:03.680 --> 00:39:04.240 Joshua A Widdicombe: H. 346 00:39:04.590 --> 00:39:09.769 Joshua A Widdicombe: what's the… could you tell me? I'm just gonna add it to my… I, again, never checked this, 347 00:39:09.940 --> 00:39:13.660 Joshua A Widdicombe: Is Jay Whittacombe… Yeah. 348 00:39:14.090 --> 00:39:15.170 Gregory Michael Kestin: Exactly. 349 00:39:15.310 --> 00:39:15.950 Joshua A Widdicombe: Okay. 350 00:39:17.290 --> 00:39:18.439 Joshua A Widdicombe: I will add that. 351 00:39:19.520 --> 00:39:24.780 Gregory Michael Kestin: So, so yeah, I can send… here, I can send you a, 352 00:39:25.010 --> 00:39:36.620 Gregory Michael Kestin: here's, like… oops, yeah, I can send you a link, Josh, so you can just get right to it. And then I'll… I can invite you guys to, to this, too. But I think… 353 00:39:36.900 --> 00:39:45.199 Gregory Michael Kestin: Well, maybe I'll start by just… let's just, I'll start by just doing a folder that is… we'll call it, like, April, 354 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:53.460 Gregory Michael Kestin: like, sphere, L-E-D, Lightning. Demo. 355 00:39:53.990 --> 00:40:04.699 Gregory Michael Kestin: In Cabot. Okay, so I made that folder. Let me invite everybody. Josh, do you want me to just invite a different email to that? 356 00:40:05.410 --> 00:40:15.540 Joshua A Widdicombe: No, that works for me. I have it, just confirmed, like, I have it logged in sporadically on different machines, so this one, didn't have it, but I'll look at it right now. 357 00:40:16.260 --> 00:40:23.990 Gregory Michael Kestin: Okay, and then, so I'll use your g.Harvard too, Steven, and then Devin is there? Can I… should I use your… 358 00:40:24.210 --> 00:40:29.239 Gregory Michael Kestin: like, it's, like, Devin Bryant at Harvard… 359 00:40:29.870 --> 00:40:30.679 Gregory Michael Kestin: ed it. 360 00:40:30.680 --> 00:40:43.739 Devon Bryant: Yeah, yeah, you can use that. Possibly when I… like, I don't have, like, Gmail access with that, so possibly when I go to request access, you're gonna see it as something different, so just… 361 00:40:43.740 --> 00:40:44.330 Gregory Michael Kestin: Okay. 362 00:40:44.330 --> 00:40:54.679 Devon Bryant: accept that. But, like, right now, I just clicked on that, and it's… it says I could accept it as my Gmail, which is, yeah, you could see that. 363 00:40:54.790 --> 00:40:55.560 Devon Bryant: But it… 364 00:40:55.560 --> 00:40:58.260 Stephen Guerin: So… so… so Greg, here's kind of a… 365 00:40:58.750 --> 00:41:12.480 Stephen Guerin: quick example of, taking your paper and saying, how can we start to convert this to the sphere, right? The gauge condition here, and your propagator structures, right? And then, on this one. 366 00:41:12.780 --> 00:41:16.380 Stephen Guerin: If we change the time slice on your light shell. 367 00:41:17.540 --> 00:41:25.109 Stephen Guerin: This is just kind of playing around, right? But just… it's kind of like, how does AI help us explore a paper and visualize as a process? That… 368 00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.519 Gregory Michael Kestin: Great, great idea, like, yeah, paper visualization, that's great, yeah. 369 00:41:30.520 --> 00:41:35.409 Stephen Guerin: So this is, like, this is your light shell. Like, starting to think about how these, 370 00:41:36.570 --> 00:41:46.439 Stephen Guerin: Vectors would be represented on the, on the surface, but obviously you can't project out, so we could do something with more of, in intensity colors as the light shell. 371 00:41:47.010 --> 00:42:00.389 Stephen Guerin: Anyway, I'm just… I read your paper a long time ago, but this is just a… this is kind of reviewing it now. Like, boom, here's the paper, how can I visualize this, right? 372 00:42:00.390 --> 00:42:00.830 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah. 373 00:42:00.830 --> 00:42:04.050 Stephen Guerin: I mean, it's just the start. It's a talking dog demo. 374 00:42:04.290 --> 00:42:09.650 Stephen Guerin: Right. You don't care what the dog says, the fact that it's talking is interesting. 375 00:42:09.650 --> 00:42:15.369 Joshua A Widdicombe: Next time you're here in town, I definitely want to, like, sit down and do some Cloud Code stuff with you, because I really… I… 376 00:42:15.540 --> 00:42:23.760 Joshua A Widdicombe: I have it installed, I just haven't really dug into it, but I did want to, like, get into… I want to see, like, some of the stuff you're doing with it. 377 00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:34.389 Stephen Guerin: Yeah, it's kind of in the semantic space of visualization, of, think of the whole portfolio that John manages as research, right? Vice Provost of research. 378 00:42:34.940 --> 00:42:53.320 Stephen Guerin: you could lay it out in an equirectangular on the sphere, and all the different research groups at Harvard, and how… and then if you upload your papers, where are you on the sphere? I mean, there's different ways also to change the basis functions of what is that layout. You know, this is… this is the physics mindset, and then 379 00:42:53.600 --> 00:43:03.779 Stephen Guerin: or if, you know, I don't know, it's there's… I think there's so much stuff in the… to be in a library where it's supposed to have some interaction and collaborative and spontaneous… 380 00:43:04.370 --> 00:43:09.190 Stephen Guerin: collaborations, where two people could find where they are, and they could be on… 381 00:43:09.730 --> 00:43:14.209 Stephen Guerin: the east and west poles, and what's in between them, right? Just by… 382 00:43:14.520 --> 00:43:17.930 Stephen Guerin: You know, that's… those kind of opportunities for finding 383 00:43:18.750 --> 00:43:22.239 Stephen Guerin: New, novel frontiers of research and ideas. 384 00:43:22.680 --> 00:43:23.649 Gregory Michael Kestin: Right. We're asking. 385 00:43:23.760 --> 00:43:26.809 Stephen Guerin: It'd be kind of cool to ask a question of the sphere. 386 00:43:27.370 --> 00:43:36.199 Stephen Guerin: And now that's going out to different people that are, you know, similar questions. It's not this… it's not facts, it's questions. You know, what questions. 387 00:43:36.200 --> 00:43:37.230 Gregory Michael Kestin: Right. 388 00:43:38.470 --> 00:43:40.179 Stephen Guerin: Kind of brainstorming. Yeah. 389 00:43:40.180 --> 00:43:48.750 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, yeah, no, I like, I like the brainstorming. It's making me think, like, oh, it would be so cool if we, even though light is… 390 00:43:49.410 --> 00:43:50.319 Gregory Michael Kestin: You know. 391 00:43:50.570 --> 00:43:57.329 Gregory Michael Kestin: goes around the Earth very quickly. It'd be like, you could do a thing where you're like, oh, how fast does a light beam go around the Earth? 392 00:43:57.500 --> 00:44:00.439 Gregory Michael Kestin: And you could show that, you know? That would be, like, a… 393 00:44:00.670 --> 00:44:14.889 Gregory Michael Kestin: I mean, I think it… I think that a light beam goes around the Earth, like, seven and a half times in a single second, if I'm remembering correctly, so it might be hard to visualize, but you could imagine it going down in, like, a, 394 00:44:15.030 --> 00:44:19.950 Gregory Michael Kestin: Like a spiral, so you could sort of see, like, if you shone a light beam and it… 395 00:44:20.150 --> 00:44:23.330 Gregory Michael Kestin: You know, you'd have to have it curve through, like, a… 396 00:44:23.640 --> 00:44:29.590 Gregory Michael Kestin: I mean, obviously, you'd have… you can have it moving straight, but, you know… Yeah, we can slow it down. 397 00:44:29.590 --> 00:44:32.599 Joshua A Widdicombe: And show, like, other, like, sound propagation, things like that. 398 00:44:32.600 --> 00:44:40.120 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah, like… like, sound prop… that would be so cool to see, like, the speed of… I mean, that's… that's so cool to imagine… 399 00:44:40.430 --> 00:44:44.350 Gregory Michael Kestin: like… Let's see what… yeah, like, what would sound… 400 00:44:44.900 --> 00:44:53.670 Gregory Michael Kestin: look like in real… in, like, real time? Because, like, you know, you could imagine something where you have lightning. 401 00:44:53.910 --> 00:45:07.899 Gregory Michael Kestin: And you could show that the lightning, you know, gets here in, like, a flash. We show, like, you know… Yeah. And then you see, like, the sound, and it's like, you have all these different lightning strikes, and you watch the thunder be these little circles that go out. 402 00:45:07.900 --> 00:45:14.989 Stephen Guerin: 32… 32 hours for sound at 767… or 343 meters per second, it's… 32 hours. 403 00:45:17.190 --> 00:45:19.580 Gregory Michael Kestin: Oh, to reach the… to go around the Earth. 404 00:45:19.760 --> 00:45:20.340 Stephen Guerin: Yeah. 405 00:45:21.560 --> 00:45:21.890 Gregory Michael Kestin: 32. 406 00:45:21.890 --> 00:45:33.660 Stephen Guerin: But that's interesting, I mean, just from a shock, you know, a certain… don't have to go all the… but just the shock wave of any kind of massive explosion like Beirut, how long did it take to get somewhere? But obviously, it's going to attenuate pretty quickly, but yeah. 407 00:45:34.160 --> 00:45:50.160 Gregory Michael Kestin: Right, right. Yeah, I mean, you know, I think that one thing that we… that we… that I think will help… that's helpful to keep in mind is that the Earth, like, operates on, like, on these… like, the thing that we can do, we can always go to different time scales. 408 00:45:50.380 --> 00:45:56.849 Gregory Michael Kestin: Right? And so, like, so if we want to do tsunamis, we can say, let's go over the course of a few days. 409 00:45:56.980 --> 00:46:13.179 Gregory Michael Kestin: if we want to do, right, any geological thing, any, you know, animal agent sort of species thing, go on the order of, like, you know, thousands to millions of years. And so, like, you know, I think… 410 00:46:13.180 --> 00:46:21.029 Gregory Michael Kestin: if we start thinking in that way, you know, the options, even on the Earth, like, really expand, right? 411 00:46:21.510 --> 00:46:22.040 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah. 412 00:46:22.480 --> 00:46:29.489 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, exactly. Yeah, we start to, yeah, time as a vector, we can start to do a lot more with, like, showing, and I think that's really what 413 00:46:29.600 --> 00:46:32.400 Joshua A Widdicombe: This is gonna be good for is, is, is… 414 00:46:32.570 --> 00:46:37.319 Joshua A Widdicombe: Because it's a global scale, and, you know, we're talking about things that happen on those, you know… 415 00:46:37.320 --> 00:46:37.940 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah. 416 00:46:37.940 --> 00:46:44.390 Joshua A Widdicombe: timescales, those geological timescales, too, so… yeah. I think these are all great ideas. We get this a good start for… 417 00:46:44.700 --> 00:46:48.079 Joshua A Widdicombe: For where we want to… our head wants to… our heads want to be at for… for… 418 00:46:48.360 --> 00:46:52.390 Joshua A Widdicombe: for concepts, and I think, I think we should probably have a section in the doc, you know, about, like. 419 00:46:52.710 --> 00:46:57.339 Joshua A Widdicombe: laying out all these, like, fun concepts and things, too, and I think that would have probably worth… 420 00:46:57.520 --> 00:47:04.049 Joshua A Widdicombe: You know, going over during the talk at some point, of just, like, things that we may want to touch upon as, like. 421 00:47:04.630 --> 00:47:09.109 Joshua A Widdicombe: You know, concepts we can convey with, with this, you know, yeah. 422 00:47:09.650 --> 00:47:19.510 Gregory Michael Kestin: No, that's a totally good point, like, not just, like, be, like, like, sort of categories of, like, examples, right? Like, sounds, species, yeah, like, all these different… 423 00:47:19.650 --> 00:47:23.330 Gregory Michael Kestin: I think that… no, that's a great… that's a great idea. 424 00:47:23.560 --> 00:47:29.029 Gregory Michael Kestin: And… actually, can I ask one question? I'm sorry, I will have to get two, but, 425 00:47:29.270 --> 00:47:38.060 Gregory Michael Kestin: The, if… let's say, like, we… one of us wants… has an idea, and, like, we decide to go and, like, claud code up an applet. 426 00:47:38.170 --> 00:47:43.999 Gregory Michael Kestin: Is there, a format that we should put that in, or a resolution that we should put that in? 427 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:44.360 Stephen Guerin: Yep. 428 00:47:44.360 --> 00:47:53.809 Gregory Michael Kestin: So that… so that it's gonna be easy, let's say, like, in a week or a week and a half, to go and just drop it onto the sphere? Like, like, what… what is… 429 00:47:53.810 --> 00:47:54.140 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah. 430 00:47:54.140 --> 00:47:54.810 Gregory Michael Kestin: Yeah. 431 00:47:55.200 --> 00:47:57.320 Joshua A Widdicombe: 1920, 1080, 432 00:47:57.320 --> 00:47:58.140 Gregory Michael Kestin: Okay. 433 00:47:58.140 --> 00:48:09.409 Joshua A Widdicombe: Tangler, we can do, it should be… I think it would skew that a little bit, but I can map it from that to, Tangler format to this year. 434 00:48:09.410 --> 00:48:23.280 Stephen Guerin: So I… ideally, like, 1920x960, a 2x1 in Echo Rectangular, and you can tell in the app in your browser to make your canvas that size, or make your… 435 00:48:23.710 --> 00:48:26.300 Stephen Guerin: window, your viewport, 436 00:48:26.760 --> 00:48:31.059 Stephen Guerin: And then with no scroll, and, you know, when it goes full screen, to be that size. 437 00:48:31.210 --> 00:48:31.939 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, it. 438 00:48:31.940 --> 00:48:34.339 Stephen Guerin: And I'd be happy to work with you on that, too, yeah. 439 00:48:34.340 --> 00:48:37.719 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, the scaler inside of the map mapper, it's all… it's, like, all… 440 00:48:38.330 --> 00:48:51.330 Joshua A Widdicombe: It reads it as 1080, but we are doing… it is a 960, just stretched, so yeah, it's just a… it's skipping a step, if you want to, like, bring it back down, or we can add in that scaling. So, most formats, as long as it's, like, written daily, will work. 441 00:48:51.680 --> 00:48:53.960 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, but yeah. Yeah. 442 00:48:53.960 --> 00:48:57.370 Gregory Michael Kestin: If we wanted it to be interactive, though. 443 00:48:57.760 --> 00:49:04.410 Gregory Michael Kestin: like, I guess we wouldn't… we couldn't go in… we couldn't be using Mad Mapper to make it interactive, right? We'd actually… or could we? 444 00:49:04.410 --> 00:49:04.940 Joshua A Widdicombe: Good. 445 00:49:05.050 --> 00:49:12.230 Joshua A Widdicombe: We could, because we would have… I have a control monitor, and what I'm planning to have is a content 446 00:49:12.470 --> 00:49:15.749 Joshua A Widdicombe: monitor. I guess as long as you… 447 00:49:16.860 --> 00:49:21.460 Joshua A Widdicombe: have the controls in, like, a separate window or something that are interactable to it. 448 00:49:21.590 --> 00:49:26.599 Joshua A Widdicombe: I could bring that to the monitor, we could do mouse and keyboard, even if we wanted to. 449 00:49:26.710 --> 00:49:27.490 Joshua A Widdicombe: Aye. 450 00:49:28.110 --> 00:49:45.780 Joshua A Widdicombe: We could get into TouchOSC interfaces with it, like setting some kind of mini or OSC controls, but that's more complicated for those, third part… like, for Cloud stuff. I'm imagining that's going to be a little more complicated than we might want to get into for this. But, yeah, we can easily just have all the inter… all the UI 451 00:49:45.880 --> 00:49:55.560 Joshua A Widdicombe: off-boarded onto the control monitor, and then all the content, onto a separate monitor, which I will do an NDI or, capture, and… 452 00:49:55.710 --> 00:50:08.150 Joshua A Widdicombe: just strip it back off to the spheres. So, just be 4 monitors, 1 machine, 2 for the sphere, 1 for control, and one for content, that I would just be screen grabbing, essentially, and then mirroring to both of these. I see. 453 00:50:08.410 --> 00:50:12.889 Joshua A Widdicombe: And I can go back and forth between other content that way. I think that's… 454 00:50:12.890 --> 00:50:13.490 Gregory Michael Kestin: I see. 455 00:50:13.490 --> 00:50:17.199 Joshua A Widdicombe: The more stuff I've done before, that's gonna be the easiest to, like, do this. 456 00:50:17.200 --> 00:50:17.929 Gregory Michael Kestin: I see. 457 00:50:17.930 --> 00:50:28.069 Joshua A Widdicombe: Second option is a second computer with a capture card, and that's also pretty easy, too. So we could do another laptop, capture carding out, with the UI on that laptop, that's also a good option. 458 00:50:28.560 --> 00:50:44.980 Gregory Michael Kestin: I see, so, like, just, just to make sure I'm getting it, so, like, if, if, if, like, we, you know, like, there was, a web page, like, you know, made a Claude-coded app that, like, is, like, has a 1920x960 459 00:50:44.980 --> 00:50:49.689 Gregory Michael Kestin: window, and then some controls on the bottom. You'll be able to sort of, like, capture 460 00:50:49.690 --> 00:50:54.169 Gregory Michael Kestin: The, the, the visual part and the control part. 461 00:50:54.320 --> 00:50:58.569 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, if it was… if they're on the same window, I could definitely… 462 00:50:58.890 --> 00:51:02.740 Joshua A Widdicombe: Capture within that raster, like, a smaller portion, and then… 463 00:51:02.740 --> 00:51:03.130 Gregory Michael Kestin: Okay. 464 00:51:03.130 --> 00:51:05.769 Joshua A Widdicombe: scale it out. 465 00:51:05.910 --> 00:51:22.079 Joshua A Widdicombe: So that's an option, too, and that actually could be done through, like, a laptop capture card. So we have a laptop with an output to a second monitor, which is to the capture card, and the capture card's being… that might be a better option, actually, because that gives you guys more control of your content and the demos ahead of time, and I'll just… 466 00:51:22.440 --> 00:51:29.079 Joshua A Widdicombe: properly map it, either live or ahead of time, with, like, what the scale should be. And then that actually might be the easiest thing to do. 467 00:51:29.660 --> 00:51:41.610 Gregory Michael Kestin: Okay, that's amazing, because basically what this lets us do is to act like the faculty, where we say, like, you know, if you go, like, say to the faculty, if you go on Cloud Code, and you say, make me this applet. 468 00:51:41.610 --> 00:51:52.330 Gregory Michael Kestin: and we tell them, this is what we did. You can just drop it on here, and, you know, it's like ready… it's a ready-to-go simulation. They will love that. I think that'd be amazing. 469 00:51:53.160 --> 00:51:57.000 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, exactly. So that works. You guys just… all the content's in your laptop. 470 00:51:57.230 --> 00:52:01.900 Joshua A Widdicombe: We, yeah, and we just capture it from there. That'd probably be the best. 471 00:52:01.900 --> 00:52:02.350 Stephen Guerin: Peruva. 472 00:52:02.350 --> 00:52:06.360 Gregory Michael Kestin: Amazing. I'm sorry that I have to go, this is so fun. No, no, my gosh. 473 00:52:06.360 --> 00:52:06.850 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yes. 474 00:52:07.570 --> 00:52:10.929 Joshua A Widdicombe: This is good. I'll start committing stuff to the doc when. 475 00:52:10.930 --> 00:52:11.340 Stephen Guerin: fireworks song. 476 00:52:11.340 --> 00:52:15.050 Joshua A Widdicombe: Just, yeah, share the link with me again, and I'll make sure, and I can. 477 00:52:15.050 --> 00:52:18.240 Gregory Michael Kestin: I do it. Yeah, it's in the, chat. 478 00:52:19.160 --> 00:52:20.509 Joshua A Widdicombe: Oh, perfect, one sec. 479 00:52:20.510 --> 00:52:23.019 Devon Bryant: Yeah, I think I got access to that. 480 00:52:23.020 --> 00:52:24.240 Gregory Michael Kestin: You got access to that, okay. 481 00:52:24.240 --> 00:52:29.510 Devon Bryant: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm in Harvard Sphere Event Guide. I see Doc right there, so yep. 482 00:52:30.250 --> 00:52:31.760 Gregory Michael Kestin: Okay, amazing. 483 00:52:31.900 --> 00:52:32.570 Devon Bryant: Awesome. 484 00:52:32.570 --> 00:52:36.109 Gregory Michael Kestin: Sweet. Well, have a lovely weekend. I'm sorry, I'm sorry that I have to run… 485 00:52:36.110 --> 00:52:36.909 Stephen Guerin: That's a good… 486 00:52:36.910 --> 00:52:37.520 Devon Bryant: That's alright. 487 00:52:37.520 --> 00:52:37.990 Stephen Guerin: Thanks. 488 00:52:37.990 --> 00:52:40.950 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, likewise, I think we covered everything we wanted to, so, like, yeah. 489 00:52:40.950 --> 00:52:48.979 Stephen Guerin: Greg, if you're thinking about it, yeah, I'd like to… I can work with you on, kind of, the workflow ahead of time, so… 490 00:52:48.980 --> 00:52:49.480 Gregory Michael Kestin: Very sweet. 491 00:52:49.590 --> 00:52:51.090 Stephen Guerin: Yeah, yeah, or the weekend. 492 00:52:51.580 --> 00:52:52.419 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I mean… 493 00:52:52.420 --> 00:52:57.930 Gregory Michael Kestin: Okay, so maybe sometime middle of next week, let's just, like, email, we'll figure out a time to all chat. 494 00:52:58.490 --> 00:53:06.329 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, and I'm known to do, if you guys want to throw any technical, like, stuff at me, as far as how you can get your stuff displayed, you want to do test runs, we can definitely do that, either remote or… 495 00:53:06.560 --> 00:53:08.669 Joshua A Widdicombe: Yeah, in person, whatever works. 496 00:53:09.210 --> 00:53:10.380 Gregory Michael Kestin: Okay, amazing. 497 00:53:10.640 --> 00:53:11.849 Joshua A Widdicombe: Alright guys, take care. 498 00:53:11.850 --> 00:53:12.560 Devon Bryant: Alright, bye. 499 00:53:12.560 --> 00:53:13.590 Gregory Michael Kestin: Take care. See you.